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ZTO Jamie
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Close Combat
HQ
Winged Hivetyrant: 2x Scything Talons. [131]
Hivetyrant: Barbed Strangler, Enhanced Senses, Toxin Sacs. [117]
2x Tyrant Guard. [90]
Elite
3x Warriors: Leaping, Rending Claws, Adrenal Glands (+I). [124]
Troop
8x Genestealers: Extended Carapce, Toxin Sacs, Scuttlers. [208]
8x Genestealers: Acid Maw, Toxin Sacs, Scything Talons. [216]
8x Genestealers: Acid Maw, Toxin Sacs, Scything Talons. [216]
14x Hormagaunts: Adrenal Glands (+I). [154]
14x Hormagaunts: Adrenal Glands (+I). [154]
Fast Attack
3x Winged Warriors: Adrenal Glands (+I), 2x Scything Talons, Extended Carapce.
Shooty
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Winged Hivetyrant: 2x Tl Devourers, Enhanced Senses, Toxin Sacs. [161]
Hivetyrant: Venom Cannon, Enhanced Senses, Toxin Sacs. 2x Tyrant Guard. [227]
Troop
12x Termagaunts: Fleshborers. [72]
12x Termagaunts: Fleshborers. [72]
12x Termagaunts: Fleshborers. [72]
9x Spinegaunts: Spinefists. [45]
9x Spinegaunts: Spinefists. [45]
8x Genestealers: Acid Maw, Toxin Sacs, Scything Talons. [216]
Fast Attack
3x Winged Warriors: 2x TL Devourers, Enhanced Senses. [120]
3x Winged Warriors: 2x TL Devourers, Enhanced Senses. [120]
Heavy Support
2x Zoanthropes: Warp Blast (free), Toxic Miasma (free), Warp Blast, Synapse. [130]
Sniper Fex: Venom Cannon, Barbed Strangler, Enhanced Senses. [148]
Dakkafex: 2x TL Devourers, Enhanced Senses. [114]

Posted 3 years ago # |
Dark Sage ZTO
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That first list is MY list! Itold you about that! Fucking thieeeffff.
Yeah first one looks good but you'll have to be weary about not having many Synapse creatures.
And as for the second list, i don't really think you should do that. By thinking of a shooty list, you've automatically put down the shooty gaunts. But let me put it this way - gaunts of ANY kind, CC or Shooty, are just cannon fodder (Soke up wounds). However in that list you don't have anything for them to soak up bullets for, as everything is staying put to shoot, So they shouldn't make up the majority of your list. Though you can have a 'shooty' tyranid list, it shouldn't only have shooty weapons as tbh there not very good. If i was to alter that list, i would 1) Put in that model which throws the Spore Mines.. if you're gonna be shooty it makes sense to have that. 2) If you're gonna have so many gaunts, use them as distraction for other units, i.e make the warriors Close Combat and have them sneak down the flanks whilst the rest of the army shoots OR, get rid of a few gaunt units and make one Tyrant Close Combat special and another unit of genestealers.. maybe a Lictor in there too..
I dunno just to me i don't think, even if it's a shooty list, you should have every unit with guns only.

Posted 3 years ago # |
ZTO Jamie
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That first list is one i sat and made earlier. I haven't took it of you as i don't listen to you :P.
Not having many synapse creatures? I have 4 broods of synapse, Flyrant, Walking Tyrant and two broods of warriors...
The termagunats are there to move up, shoot, charge as they aren't too bad in CC. The units they attack will have been weakened before by shooting, and any remainders can be finished up with shooting after and by the Genestealers. I have the Zoats for anti-tank with the S 10 Warp Blast, and a Sniper Fex for anti-tank. the whole lotta TL Devourers are gonna be painful. I have a possibility of 32 shots that re-roll to hit and wound with those. The Warriors have wings to fly round the flanks and pick of units, and try to penetrate any rear armour that proving tricky.

Posted 3 years ago # |
Drigg
Member

Lol, I listen to Sage as he has more knowledge then I do... but how do i know he isnt making me a bad player so he uber pwns me :P jk

Posted 3 years ago # |
ZTO Jamie
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Just tried out my CC list againt Mike, but it was kinda gay seeing as we played the long way across the table...

Posted 3 years ago # |
Dark Sage ZTO
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i.e, HE GOT PHYSICALLY RAPED.
End result: Victorious Slaughter for relictors.

Posted 3 years ago # |
GrimTalos
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yea mikes relictors torn though my short range assault force I just got picked off by the mass amount of Lascannons atleast in the new SM codex they have to take 10 men to get a heavy weapon like CSM.

Posted 3 years ago # |
Dark Sage ZTO
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Wtf? Really? Where did you read that???

Posted 3 years ago # |
GrimTalos
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its in the 5th ed Space marine rumours on Warseer so its not 100% but its about 90% true as GW said they are getting rid of the min/max style of play.
But dont worry SM will be getting Frag Nades,Krak Nades and a bolt pistol but no extra CCW like CSM.

Posted 3 years ago # |
ZTO Jamie
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I read that "Tactical Squads- If 10 models strong they get a flamer and missile launcher for free."

Posted 3 years ago # |
GrimTalos
Member

Yea you do get a bonus for fielding a 10 strong Tac squad not sure what it is though.

Posted 3 years ago # |
Dark Sage ZTO
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Thats a load of horse shit man. It's really restricting and will make the space marines so linear.. what used to be fun about 40k was the way you could completely customise how you wanted your army to fight. Now they're just making everything so similar and boring. 5 Man heavy squads was my main tactic. Well im glad now im not sticking with Marines any more.

Posted 3 years ago # |
GrimTalos
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Linear seems to be GW way of doing it now. I mean look at the Old CSM codex and the new one. The new one has had nearly all the chaos stuff taken out of it.

Posted 3 years ago # |
Dark Sage ZTO
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When we've all started to advance.. maybe we'll do a bit of Warhammer Fantasy as well.
I used to collect Lizardmen!

Posted 3 years ago # |
GrimTalos
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Going a little off-topic now. But I have about 1000 points of Beastmen and a 500 of skaven I think. My Daemon army will be able to play WFB.

Posted 3 years ago # |
ZTO Jamie
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I have an Orcs and Goblin army.
Anyway, on the list. I forgot to add EC to my Flyrant, so gonna add that. I want to try out the list using the short table, as thats the one we will be playing at WW.

Posted 3 years ago # |
Dark Sage ZTO
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Not really. I just depends which table edge you set up on, short ways or long ways. Although, yeah it's probably unfair for the CC army that we're 60" away from eachother, it's equally unfair for us to be only 40 inches because then you can be on me by turn 2. We'll have to find the best comprimise in a situation.
Well, thats just for 1v1 anyways. For the FFA.. it will just be chaos all-round anyway!

Posted 3 years ago # |
GrimTalos
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nearly all GW tables have it set up so that when you deploy there is 24 inchs between the deployment zones. This is the same as all tourny tables.

Posted 3 years ago # |
Nemphtis
Final Boss

In all fairness, every game I've played (and seen played) on Vassal and in Games Workshop have both armies deploy on the short side of the table, not the long ends. Do you have any idea how brutally the Tau could rape most opponents if we deployed on the far sides of maps? They'd be domination with those Hammerheads and probably manage to reach the objectives sooner than their enemies if they're using a mechanised army list.

Posted 3 years ago # |
ZTO Jamie
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It'd pretty much make the Nids redundant if all games were played long ways.

Posted 3 years ago # |
Dark Sage ZTO
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And i agree, but still - 24 inches apart as grim says, means that no matter how much shooting an army has, even tau, any tyranid army will be upon them by turn 2 and then destroy them. But grim is right.. that's the standard. I guess you just have to be more prepared for an onslaught.

Posted 3 years ago # |
ZTO Jamie
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But the thing is, not my entire army is able to move that fast. Hormagaunts for example, can only move 6 inches. So i either rush all my army up and leave the Horms behind, out of synapse, which is a waste of points. Or i have to keep a synapse creature or two behind to make sure all my army can attack, but then my fast attacking part of the army has a higher chance of being killed in CC as theres less support.

Posted 3 years ago # |
GrimTalos
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Jamie I have yet to really play a proper game against NIds would you be jump for a game on vassal sometime ?

Posted 3 years ago # |
Dark Sage ZTO
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Don't know why this forum didn't post my post - but i said how youre full of crap jamie. 'Hormagaunts can only move 6 inches' Yeah, and then Fleet up to 6, and then on the second turn, Assault 12. If you managed to roll 6's on both fleets, that's 6+6+6+6+12. = 48 Inches. That's the entire fucking length of the board that your hormagaunts can cover by turn 2, LET ALONE the 24 fucking inches neccesarry to get to me.
Infact your horms are the one of the fastest unit you have, they'll never get left behind you eejdat. And then thats not to mention your winged units that no matter what, will be on me by turn 2.
All i have to hope is that due to you barreling forward, i can unleash a shit-load of bullets and kill half your army by turn two, and then the other half can die against my own attacking front.
Ok, just for this topic, i here by am going to buy like 3 more heavy bolters before the meet up! You will feel my wrath Jamie Maude!!

Posted 3 years ago # |
Nemphtis
Final Boss

Saying that he's going to roll that many sixes is a little optimistic. Yes, it's possible, but pretty unlikely. Even when I play against Jamie on the short side of a table, he only gets into CC with me at Turn 2. Except for that one lame map he picked where the table wasn't wide enough so he just assaulted in Turn 1.

Posted 3 years ago # |
Dark Sage ZTO
Member

Did you mean to say that? Because you look pretty retarded doing so.
For starters the whole thing i was talking about is how it's unfair he can be on me by turn 2 , and then you deny my claims and say 'Even when i play against jamie on the short side of a table, he only gets into CC with me at Turn 2.'
So not only is that a mistake in your... grammar, but to say he 'only' gets to you by turn 2, out of 6 turns he can be assaulting you by the second turn where you've only had the chance to shoot him once.. did you really mean to say 'only'?

Posted 3 years ago # |
ZTO Jamie
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Horms are probably the slowest troop choice. They don't have Fleet so there for, if i use them as a meatshield, it slows down all the rest of my troops, otherwise my Stealers would get ripped apart. Nids have the speed available, but its how i use it. I can, rush forward my winged and fleet troops, but eave slower troops behind, wasting there points. A Nid army is most effective when it attacks as one whole unit, not in indivdual sections, which is where i get raped.
And yeah Grim, i'll give you a game or two before i go away on Tuesday.

Posted 3 years ago # |
Dark Sage ZTO
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Strange, just read the book and yeah, they're different for some reason.
Hm, i guess it isn't as bad as i thought it was.
But still, winged units can definatly, but as jamie says, if he moved them too quickly it would leave the army behind.

Posted 3 years ago # |
GrimTalos
Member

That was a fun game jamie. Could have easily gone either way and in 5th we both would not have had nay scoring units. Not sure who won using VP.
My Oblits did great that game, was annoying not being able to instant kill the MCs.

Posted 3 years ago # |
ZTO Jamie
Member

Wrote up a new list earlier, combining the two previous lists i'd done, and it seems pretty effective despite me losing to George, although it was a close game. My man of the match would probably go to my Winged Tyrant, taking out two CSM squads, and destorying a Vidicators weapon. Only thing i lacked was some Anti-Infantry shooty, but it didn't help with my 2x TL Devs Warriors being taken out first turn.
Anyway, heres the list which i've modified after our game, as i had 60 points spare. The list now totals 1500 exactly.
HQ
Winged Hivetyrant: 2x Scything Talons, Warp Field. [166]
Hivetyrant: Venom Cannon, Enhanced Senses, Toxin Sacs, Warp Field. [166]
Elite
3x Warriors: Leaping, Enhanced Senses, Adrenal Glands +I, Devourer, Rending Claws. [114]
Troop
8x Genestealers: Extended Carapce, Toxin Sacs. [184]
8x Genestealers: Extended Carapce, Toxin Sacs. [184]
14x Hormagaunts: Adrenal Glands +I. [154]
14x Hormagaunts: Adrenal Glands +I. [154]
12X Termgaunts: Fleshborer. [72]
12X Termgaunts: Fleshborer. [72]
Fast Attack
3x Winged Warriors: 2x TL Deovurers, Enhaced Senses, Extended Carapace.
Heavy Support
2x Zoanthropes: Synapse, Warp Blast. [130]

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