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Nemphtis
Final Boss

We often get new ideas for designs on ACFA and I think having a topic to get feedback on these concepts can't be a bad thing. Minutes ago I posted a matchmaking topic to get some teamwork going in ACFA between Zetzio members who own the game. Here is a good starting point to discuss what type of design we could make to benefit a four-man team of mechs.

I'm looking to make a very offensive design to use in a four-man team. It will specialise in close combat and will be rather lightly armoured which is a sacrifice I make for keeping my speed above average. I'm trying to decide if I want to use a blade on it since if you guys are keeping someone busy, I could get lucky and land a devastating blade strike on them.

I've also not settled on my legs. I favour quads since they move very fast on the ground but they consume too much EN when flying. Normal biped legs are balanced but lack the breakneck quick-boost speed I feel when using quads on land. Assuming one of you has a good design which has good air superiority (perma-flight?) I could go with quads and focus on enemies who stay grounded a lot.

On my other hand I will most likely equip a Motorcobra machine gun as it has lots of ammunition for a single weapon, has good damage when using sustained fire and compliments my blade since it's a short range weapon. I'm not sure about back weapons but I was thinking maybe SAPLA (Grenade) or KAMAL (Slug). SAPLA only has ten shots but it could compliment my machine gun very well, I could use the Motorcobra to take down the enemy's PA, then hit them in the face with the grenade canon. KAMAL on the other hand takes down PA instantly if it hits, and can do good damage if all the slugs hit up close.

Posted 2 years ago # |
ZTO Jamie
Member

I personally prefer medium-long range, as I simply don't have the reaction or thinking time needed at close range. I also like barrage style weapons, to be able to sit at a distance and pummel the enemy.

Posted 2 years ago # |
Nemphtis
Final Boss

Check my original post since I just edited it to talk more about my design concept and less about tactics for the team. I don't want to bore you guys to death with all the shit going through my head in terms of part combinations.

Jamie, there's a lot of weapons which have medium or long range lock distances. Do you have any favourites in particular? You sound like you might enjoy a design that has a combination of rifles and rockets for medium range combat. A rifle in one hand and a sniper rifle in the other could be interesting. The rifle will have a lot of bullets and the sniper rifle will have slightly longer range and power, but only have between 45-70 bullets. Then you could have rockets on your back which keeps the enemy dancing, forcing them to consume EN to avoid rockets and perhaps even hitting them for some decent damage.

Posted 2 years ago # |
ZTO Jamie
Member

Almost finished my second run through, so will have all the parts pretty soon. Breezed through all but 2 of the missions yesterday in around 45 minutes- 1 hour using that mech you made me Mus. Stuck with beating AF Answerer now, gonna have a look for any tips i can get.

Posted 2 years ago # |
jackstone112
Member

its too bad im not intrested in these kinds of games ^^

Posted 2 years ago # |
ZTO Jamie
Member

Decided to just go with dual Kojimas and one hit AF Answerer.

Posted 2 years ago # |
Nemphtis
Final Boss

Isn't that a two hit? You can use Kiku to literally one-hit Answerer and since you didn't 'shoot', you get a better grade as there's no real costs involved. Still, if you got an S rank using that method then no need to use Kiku now.

By the way, which missiles have stood out to you so far? You should make a topic on ACO asking about which missiles are generally considered a cut above the rest, but usually you can figure things out yourself just by looking at the statistics and seeing if they match the requirements you've set for them.

Posted 2 years ago # |
ZTO Jamie
Member

I probably meant Kiku. Either way it was the blades, and I just boosted in and d hit it.

Posted 2 years ago # |
Nemphtis
Final Boss

Quoting what I asked earlier since you didn't answer it:

By the way, which missiles have stood out to you so far? You should make a topic on ACO asking about which missiles are generally considered a cut above the rest, but usually you can figure things out yourself just by looking at the statistics and seeing if they match the requirements you've set for them.

Posted 2 years ago # |
ZTO Jamie
Member

Its proving harder than I thought to find some missile I like. I'm trying to stay in the middle-weight category, so I'm having to stay away from the barrage type weapons I was hoping to use. They just push my weight too far, with out getting heavier body parts.

I quite like the upwards firing PM missiles. I'm looking forward to trying them out against someone other than yourself, as with your speedier designs, its harder for them to impact. I also liked the high accuracy missiles when i tryed them out. I forget the name now.

At least I found a good missile FCS, that has a decent missile lock-on and range. It also provides me with decent radar coverage.

I tried out a few of the direct fire missiles as well, but couldn't get these to work very well. I want something that is going to follow and harrass the enemy AC, which is why i like the HighAcc missiles.

Posted 2 years ago # |
Nemphtis
Final Boss

Well look at it this way man; if you can hit me with a design when I'm using my fast machines then you can hit anyone. Even the slowest mechs can be quite fast in this game and obviously the only way to avoid getting hit by missiles is to get the fuck away from them.

So basically there's no point trying to find missiles that can hit the enemy because they're statistically better than the enemy mech, try and use missiles that can trick the enemy into getting hit by taking advantage of its type. That's why we have fast missiles that target slow enemies, high agility missiles that can turn 180 degrees and still chase an agile enemy, PM missiles that travel in paths where the enemy is likely to boost towards when trying to dodge them and so on.

You say you want a design that's not too heavy but can handle the load of barrage weapons? Have you tried using light or medium weight quad legs? They are very quick on the ground but have good load capacity too. Which weapons are you looking to use on your mech? If you tell me the specific weapons you want on a mech I will look into design possibilities when I'm next on the game.

Posted 2 years ago # |
ZTO Jamie
Member

Next time i'm on the game, i'll put together a list of the weapons i'm liking. I'm currently looking at the idea of missiles with either assault rifles or regular rifles. But, I don't have anything specific yet.

Posted 2 years ago # |
Nemphtis
Final Boss

You should check out Odstarva and Thermidore's design from the arena. They are both the same person, but they use a lightweight frame with missiles and rifles. The idea is that he still packs missiles for harassment reasons, but he also has dual rifles for slow but steady damage. The only problem is you need to take advantage of that agility, because ACFA is not a game where you should ever be standing still.

Posted 2 years ago # |

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